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AnotherDay_SameShit 6:54 Sun Apr 29
TV/Media etc always backing dinosaurs like Moyes and Allardyce?

WTF is it with this? It's actually started to get right on my tits.

1) They've done a good job.
2) They should be kept on.
3) They've done what they were brought in to do.
4) The fans should be grateful.

Fucking ignorant cunts. Fans deserve better.

Garth Algar 11:16 Mon Apr 30
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I'm sure at some stage in the early 2000s, Man City fans complained about the shit football they were being subjected to.

I can't remember whether the media were telling them to be careful what they wish for?

Man City dared to dream, and those dreams have become reality.

No reason why a team like Everton, Newcastle and even us can't gate crash the top six with the right investment and ambition.

Russ of the BML 10:46 Mon Apr 30
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Here is another example. I replied to PD the other day when he said something along the lines that Moyes and others get praise for doing very little:

Private Dancer 11:23 Wed Apr 25

Yes, exactly what he achieved at Everton. And exactly what he gets praise for by all and sundry in the media. For making Everton average to good for a decade.

Fucking cunts like Jim White do my head in. He had a thing on TS yesterday, a whole section, on why Sam Allardyce deserves praise for doing a great job at Everton.

He had so many Everton fans coming on and telling him why they think Allardyce is shit and not the right man for the job he basically gave up and resorted to "Well, be careful what you wish for".

He was then roundly sounded out by a very articulate Evertonian who told him it was the likes of him and others in the media that create the big six monopoly by closing down supporters of other clubs who dare to dream. And that they expect the Status Quo and that others should know there place.

White replied by saying to the guy "So you think I have an agenda against Everton?" and he replied "No, you have an agenda for the top six". The Evertonian then said to him "How dare you and anyone else tell us that we should be grateful for Sam Allardyce. His football is terrible and his attitude to the fans stinks".

White and his matey love in for Fat Sam was eventually placated.

But this is the problem. Any fans outside teams from the top six are treated badly by the media. We are expected to maintain the Status Quo and be grateful for what we have got. White has often told people on TS what a good job Moyes is doing at West Ham under difficult circumstances. But him and his cunt mates don't have to watch it week in week out.

FruityBoots. 10:36 Sun Apr 29
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You forgot

5) you should be careful what you wish for

When we want them out

Crassus 9:10 Sun Apr 29
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Tide is turning on this one
Ignore the know nothing tokens, even on TS, dullard radio for sure, there is a rising climate of heat being applied to the dinos

Saggers absolutely slaughtered Moyes and the board today, absolutely took them apart, fuck me Goldstein, hateful individual that he is, been sticking up for us fans for a while

Fat Sam, Moyes, Pardew all coming under increasing scutiny

Iron2010 8:38 Sun Apr 29
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It’s almost as tedious as the football being dished up.

charleyfarley 8:34 Sun Apr 29
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Yes agree Bungo, also a few of them could do with sitting with the fans for a few matches not in some cosy studio and stay for 90 minutes of boring football

Bungo 8:32 Sun Apr 29
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*pundits even..

Bungo 8:31 Sun Apr 29
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I think it's a couple of things.

Firstly, people who work in the football industry have a different perspective to fans. They see it more as a business with targets which are either hit or not. How they are achieved is of secondary importance. Owners, managers and pendits all seem to follow this belief (hence the 'success' of Jose).

Fans want something different. Survival at the cost of dull football is not what we want. We mistakenly still see football as something that should entertain us.

Also, pundits are part of the football industry. The managers or players that they are discussing today, could easily be sat by the side of them in a radio or TV studio tomorrow. Not many of us bad-mouth people in our own industry that we may end up working alongside.

Iron2010 8:10 Sun Apr 29
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Last night I was listening to sky pundits discussing how Moore shouldn’t get the West Brom job due to lack of experience. When in reality he has won more games than Pards and galvanised a desperate club.

The Western worlds fear of the unknown is shocking. Always reminds me of the time Blockbusters refuses to buy Netflix because they didn’t think streaming would catch on !

zico 8:05 Sun Apr 29
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I can't think of many managers out there who are much good to be honest or at least have their won tools for the job. Even Chris Coleman has got the bullet at Sunderland and he was considered a good up and coming manager. I doubt even Mourinho or Pep could do much with our squad!!

The ones who are doing well like the fella at Wolves are the guys who seem to bring the players in that they want. Management got far more difficult when the Chairman and DOF started buying the players,

eusebiovic 7:21 Sun Apr 29
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Alex V 7:00 Sun Apr 29

Lertie Button 7:18 Sun Apr 29
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Moyes should be put down along with the fat man, Pullis and the rest. Their era is long gone
Of course we're going to be stuck with one of the last of the breed

HairyHammer 7:08 Sun Apr 29
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Takashi Mike 6.56


Spot on !

13 Brentford Rd 7:04 Sun Apr 29
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Any fan with a bit if knowledge and football nous could have got as much out of the team than Moyes has.

Alex V 7:00 Sun Apr 29
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It's not just football. It's everything.

charleyfarley 6:59 Sun Apr 29
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Thinking the same thing Garth Crooks yesterday was on one yesterday re: Saladarse how stupid Everton fans were. They think they have the right to tell us what football we should be watching. So West Ham Newcastle & Everton fans are all wrong for not wanting dogshit football

Takashi Miike 6:56 Sun Apr 29
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because clubs like us should know their place in the game. survival now is all you should be happy about